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Ratzlaff, Hannah K.
From:Ratzlaff, Hannah K.
Sent:Friday, August 19, 2022 9:36 AM
To:'Denise L'
Subject:RE: Central High Moratorium
Attachments:HD LOD and DOD comparison.pdf; Little Rock, AR Code of Ordinances- Central
DOD.pdf
Denise,
Sounds great! I’ve got it on my calendar.
The best resource for the LOD discuss is the current LOD report available online:
https://www.littlerock.gov/business/planning-and-development/boards-commissions/local-ordinance-district/.
The best resource for the Design Overlay District discussion is attached. Included is a comparison chart of the existing
historic district, the existing Design Overlay District, and the proposed Local Ordinance District (map included), as well as
the existing ordinance for the Design Overlay District.
I’d like to discuss with the group what they believe are the benefits and negatives of the existing Design Overlay District
based on the impact of those regulations since they were enacted in 2009. For example, are the tree preservation and
tree planting standards making a positive difference to the area? Are new construction projects compatible with the
district and do they have a positive design impact to the neighborhood? Basically, what standards in the DOD ordinance
are worth keeping?
Thanks,
Hannah Ratzlaff
Urban Designer &
Historic District Commission Staff
Planning & Development,
723 W. Markham
Little Rock, AR 72201
hratzlaff@littlerock.gov
501-371-4789
From: Denise L <dannleeson@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2022 9:37 PM
To: Ratzlaff, Hannah K. <hratzlaff@littlerock.gov>
Subject: RE: Central High Moratorium
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Hannah,
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September 8th will be great. We’ve just changed our meeting format. Odd number months are to be business meetings,
primarily for the officers; however any member is welcome to attend/participate.
Might you have thought about specific talking points that I can email to our list in advance? That way, those attending
will be more prepared to participate.
Thank you,
Denise
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From: Ratzlaff, Hannah K.
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2022 9:47 AM
To: Denise Leeson
Subject: RE: Central High Moratorium
Denise,
Let’s plan to discuss at your September 8th meeting. Is this a meeting of only officers or with all neighborhood residents?
Thanks,
Hannah Ratzlaff
Urban Designer &
Historic District Commission Staff
Planning & Development,
723 W. Markham
Little Rock, AR 72201
hratzlaff@littlerock.gov
501-371-4789
From: Denise Leeson <dannleeson@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2022 12:50 PM
To: Ratzlaff, Hannah K. <hratzlaff@littlerock.gov>
Subject: Re: Central High Moratorium
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Hannah,
As ours is a volunteer organization, its unlikely we'll be able to get officers in a meeting during working hours. Our VP is
retired, thus has a schedule more flexible than some. I'm off work this Friday. Would you like to meet then? I can ask if
our VP, Paul, and a few others (retired and/or self-employed) can join us.
Otherwise, there's always our meeting on September 8 at 6:30.
Thank you,
Denise
On Thu, Aug 11, 2022, 1:23 PM Ratzlaff, Hannah K. <hratzlaff@littlerock.gov> wrote:
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Denise and Paul,
We are at the point of the proposed local ordinance district process where we are drafting changes to the City’s
Historic Preservation ordinances to submit before the Board when it comes time. One thing we are considering is
keeping the Central High Design Overlay District ordinance active (rather than repealing it) while the future historic
district guidelines (tailored to the LOD district) would supersede it. There are multiple reasons for this path,
considering the large portion of blocks to the West of the high school that are within the DOD b ut would not be within
the proposed LOD. I doubt we would want to lose the DOD standards there. At the same time, two layers of regulation
that overlap with standards would need to be handled carefully so that review expectations are clear.
I’d like to set up an informal discussion (can be in person or virtual) with the Central High neighborhood association
leadership (or whomever you’d like to include) to discuss the benefits and negatives of keeping the existing DOD in
place. To get feedback and think together. I’d like to make sure that the regulations that result here are to the best
benefit to the neighborhood and the future development it would like to see. Attached is a map of the two regulatory
areas for a good visual.
Please let me know if you’d like to have this discussion with staff and when a good time would be?
Thanks,
Hannah Ratzlaff
Urban Designer &
Historic District Commission Staff
Planning & Development,
723 W. Markham
Little Rock, AR 72201
hratzlaff@littlerock.gov
501-371-4789
From: Ratzlaff, Hannah K.
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2022 3:54 PM
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To: 'Denise L' <dannleeson@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Central High Moratorium
Good afternoon Denise,
I wanted to follow back up with you concerning the upcoming proposal to establish a local ordinance district for the
Central High Neighborhood Historic District. A good portion of the Central High Neighborhood Association residents
live, or own property, within the proposed LOD boundaries. I want to make sure that people who are affected by this
possible change have opportunities to ask questions of staff, comment on the proposal, and are aware of upcoming
public hearings. Currently, the proposal is set to be heard by the Historic District Commission on October 6 th. Staff will
be sending out letters to property owners about three weeks before the public hearing. Public notice will also be in
the Daily Record newspaper. And, if anyone would like to keep updated online, the HDC has a social presence now.
Following the hearing, the proposal (if approved by the HDC) will go before the Board of Directors at a later date
(TBD).
Before we get farther in this process, is there a time that planning staff can meet with the Central High NA leadership
to discuss the proposal and answer any questions? If there is a possibility that the association would like staff to
present at a neighborhood meeting, we would also like to go ahead and get it in our calendars.
Thanks,
Hannah Ratzlaff
Urban Designer &
Historic District Commission Staff
Planning & Development,
723 W. Markham
Little Rock, AR 72201
hratzlaff@littlerock.gov
501-371-4789
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From: Denise L <dannleeson@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 6:00 PM
To: Ratzlaff, Hannah K. <hratzlaff@littlerock.gov>
Subject: RE: Central High Moratorium
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Hannah,
I’m so glad you’re familiar with the neighborhood and know Paul.
At tonight’s meeting, we’ll briefly talk about the moratorium and the OLD proposal. Surely, there will be questions
and comments that I can share.
Denise
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From: Ratzlaff, Hannah K.
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 11:47 AM
To: Denise Leeson
Cc: Paul Dodds
Subject: RE: Central High Moratorium
Denise,
Great to meet you virtually, looking forward to meeting with you in person at some point!
My first home in Little Rock was actually one of Paul’s rentals across the street from Central High School a few years
ago. I had a wonderful time living in the neighborhood and am familiar with Paul’s investments throughout. Paul’s
comments, in my experience, are always worthy of consideration.
Please let me know if you have any questions or comments about the two initiatives (the moratorium and the LOD
proposal) before we are able to get together. I’m happy to assist.
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Thanks,
Hannah Ratzlaff
Urban Designer
Planning & Development,
723 W. Markham
Little Rock, AR 72201
hratzlaff@littlerock.gov
501-371-4789
From: Denise Leeson <dannleeson@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 10:57 AM
To: Ratzlaff, Hannah K. <hratzlaff@littlerock.gov>
Cc: Paul Dodds <paul@dodds.us>
Subject: Re: Central High Moratorium
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Hannah,
Paul is a respected owner of numerous properties in our neighborhood, whose years of advocacy and rehabbing have
added inestimable value to our neighborhood. If you are unfamiliar with Paul's work, you would be well served by
driving by a few of his properties. Paul is an inspiration and an invaluable resource to others who wish to live and
invest in our neighborhood.
Paul's years of experience provide him with knowledge that results in the types of thoughtful comments he provided
in his email. I'm confident you will also find his comments worthy of consideration as amendments to the resolution
being put before the Board on the 19th.
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I look forward to working with you.
Denise
On Thu, Jul 14, 2022, 10:22 AM Ratzlaff, Hannah K. <hratzlaff@littlerock.gov> wrote:
Good morning Paul,
Thanks for reaching out! I’m happy to receive your comments.
To clarify, the moratorium is going before the Board of Directors on July 19 th. It is not a Planning Commission item.
The agenda item for today on the Planning Commission concerning the Central High Neighborhood Historic District
is a first look (non-voting item) at a proposal to establish a local ordinance district (“LOD”) for the CHN historic
district. The City is following the procedures set out by the Arkansas General Assembly (A.C.A § 14-172-203) and
the City’s own Historic Preservation ordinance (Sec. 3 Article IV). The process requires a strong amount of public
communication and, as staff to the HDC, I am eager to have as much input as possible. The purpose of the proposal
is certainly to support the district in its aims. The LOD process requires the composition of a report, which is now
available on the City’s website: https://www.littlerock.gov/business/planning-and-development/boards-
commissions/local-ordinance-district/. The report will likely go through a number of drafts on its way to the Board
of Directors with an accompanying ordinance. Please feel free to review the report!
To give internal context, and the report speaks to this, the impetus for the LOD proposal came from the concern by
staff for the National Register condition of the district. After recognizing the number of demolitions and alterations
that have occurred since the last survey in 2012, we conducted an in-house analysis of the district based on permit
data, the 2012 NR data, and consultation with AHPP’s NR team. The results were worrisome. Bringing this to
attention, leadership in our department as well as City management, were sympathetic and eager to move forward
with solutions to avoid the loss of the district and loss of property owner access to rehabilitation economic tools.
As we moved forward with preparing the LOD proposal, we discussed with other historic preservation officers in
the nation, that I have contact with through NAPC, possible obstacles they have experienced. We found that many
utilized a moratorium on demolitions while an LOD was being proposed. They utilized this to discourage a “rush” in
permitting that could add more harm to the district. I truly appreciate your comments on the moratorium
resolution, and I’ll bring attention to these points for the draft leading to the July 19 th Board meeting, that is: the
recognition of rehabilitations approved by the NPS Part 2 for tax credits that have not yet applied for permits,
Historic District Commission involvement, code officer training, NR status consideration in staff review, standards
surrounding damaged structure, and neighborhood engagement.
To address a few of your comments:
1.To clarify the role that the HDC would take in the review process outlined in Section 5 of the proposed
resolution, it is only HDC staff (myself) that will take part in this review and provide recommendations to the
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Board. No applications would go to the HDC for public review. That would be putting the cart before the
horse, I agree. I believe this clarification would also address your concerns in the last paragraph of point 1 of
your email below. Please correct me if you were referring to a different issue.
Concerning code officers, historic preservation education is in the plans internally for Central High, and
MacArthur Park as well. I’m not sure what our previous practices have been with code enforcement but I
certainly agree there is a need and opportunity there.
Concerning the support of non-contributing structures becoming contributing structures, this will be one of
the main considerations in staff review. I agree that making these types of projects administrative review
only would be supportive of the larger goal. I will bring this comment forward with the rest.
1.Concerning structures that are damaged following the adoption of the resolution, this is a strong point. There
would certainly be a review process with our staff to determine this case by case. I’m happy to explore ways of
using the moratorium as an incentive for the use of HTC and AHPP grants while still allowing those property
owners—who typically care for their buildings and have incurred damages like a tree falling— to seek the
permits required to address damages.
1.We have reached out to both neighborhood associations concerning the LOD proposal and the moratorium once
the items were officially put on the proper agendas. I completely agree that neighborhood engagement
should be robust. We have asked both associations how they would like us to engage with their organization
and are happy to provide presentations. @Denise Leeson, I believe you invite us to your potluck tonight! I
don’t believe Walter or I can make it with Planning Commission being tonight depending on when it ends, but
I am sad to miss out. I believe you are coordinating with Walter and I on a best time to meet and discuss the
LOD proposal.
There will be a number of public meetings for the LOD report and ordinance. Planning Commission will be
hearing the LOD draft report this afternoon (as a non-voting item). This will be a task for me to educate
them on what is being asked of them, as well as historic preservation efforts in general.
Paul, if you would like your comments included on the moratorium resolution item, you will need to submit them
to the City Clerk’s office or to your representative board member. Here is a link to the clerk’s contact information:
https://www.littlerock.gov/city-administration/cityclerksoffice/.
Thank you again for your comments,
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Hannah Ratzlaff
Urban Designer
Planning & Development,
723 W. Markham
Little Rock, AR 72201
hratzlaff@littlerock.gov
501-371-4789
From: Paul Dodds <paul@dodds.us>
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 11:38 PM
To: Ratzlaff, Hannah K. <hratzlaff@littlerock.gov>
Cc: Denise Leeson <dannleeson@gmail.com>
Subject: Central High Moratorium
Dear Hannah,
I wanted to submit comments on the draft demolition moratorium and external building permit limit ordinance
that is on the agenda for the Planning Commission tomorrow. I generally support and welcome the ordinance, but
would like to submit two substantive and one procedural comment.
1. External Building Permit Limits: While I generally support the idea of external building permit limits, I am
concerned that the procedure is unnecessarily burdensome and that applying Historic District Commission
standards as a first step could lead to real resistance.
Instead of having a blanket requirement like the one proposed, I would urge that the ordinance instead focus on
maintaining and increasing the number of contributing structures to the District, and on encouraging certified
historic rehabilitations. The ordinance does not do this, thus missing a real opportunity. I know of several planned
historic tax credit projects in the neighborhood that could be negatively impacted by the external building permit
limits. This unintended consequence would only undermine the goals of the ordinance.
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Instead of requiring all people wanting to do external renovations to seek full City Board approval, after staff and
Historic District Commission review and comment, the ordinance should exempt from its ban any projects that
have an approved National Park Service Part 2 Historic Tax Credit Application. These projects should be permitted
to go forward subject only to a requirement that the project be completed according the terms of the NPS or State
approved application (for non-Federal HTC projects). The owners should submit a copy of this approval and the
application to Planning staff, not to the whole HDC. Code officers should be made aware of these terms, be given
training in historic rehabilitations and help ensure project completion in accordance with NPS standards.
Next, the ordinance should be used to help make non-contributing structures contributing ones. I have converted
several properties in the Historic District from non-contributing to contributing status, including most recently the
unsafe and vacant 1721-23 Dennison. In that case, all it took was the removal of some cheap paneling around an
enclosed porch. The ordinance should recognize the possibility of and need to convert non-contributing structure
to contributing status. Applicants seeking an exemption for any property built during the period of historic
significance should be also be able to benefit from a simplified staff level approval procedure, if they own a
property that can be made contributing - if they are willing to do so. Active City staff engagement with applicants,
helping them work with the AHPP to make a property contributing, can increase, and not just stop the loss, of
historic properties. Once it is contributing, the applicant would then be able to get a permit on staff approval, once
its HTC Part 2 receives NPS or State approval.
My understanding is that HDC has quite different and more burdensome guidelines than those required by the
National Park Service. If the goal is to help encourage owners to retain historic properties and defend the district’s
Federal status, the NPS standards, as interpreted by the Department of Arkansas Heritage are sufficient and should
be applied. If the Historic District Commission wishes to have a role in review, I would urge that the review be
limited to ensuring that contributing structures, or properties that could be made contributing structures with
historically appropriate changes, not be changed in ways that would jeopardize their contributing structure
status. This should be the only review purpose. While the historic district might sometime be at a point where full
HDC review of projects according to their standards would be accepted by most owners and residents, we are not
there yet. Let’s not get distracted, and stick just with defending our Federally recognized status.
2. Damaged Structures: I do not like the “damaged structures” loophole in Section 3. It is vague and could have
the perverse incentive of encouraging people to damage their properties to get a building permit. It is not clear
what it is trying to accomplish, and provides no standards for what kind of damage would trigger an exemption and
why. It should certainly NOT be linked to the City’s existing and opaque standards for finding properties unsafe
and vacant. I have renovated a number of UV homes, many of which had had fire damage - and all of which are
contributing structures the historic district. Just because there is a fire or a tree falls on a house is not a reason to
give an owner a pass.
So many of the houses in the area are in such poor repair, that repairing this moderate fire, tree or other damage
can be only a small fraction of the total cost needed to bring a building fully back. Using the ordinance to nudge
owners of damaged historic properties into undertaking certified historic rehabilitations, rather than permitting
poor and minimal repairs that ruin the property’s contributing status, can lead to real neighborhood
stabilization. For example, I bought the historic T.H. Miller House fourplex at 2017-2019 W. 17th St. after a fire
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put a stop to its long term crack house/ very shabby rental use. The house was terribly run down before the fire,
and I estimate that repairing the fire damage added less than $15,000 to the overall $280,000 project investment
costs. Rather than letting damage to an historic property be an excuse for yet another minimal slumlord
“remuddling", use it as a way to help owners get HTC funds, and really improve the neighborhood. Again, this is a
place where the ordinance really should serve an educational and incentivizing function, but fails to do so.
3. Procedural Concerns: I am copying the president of the Central High Neighborhood Association on this letter. I
have not previously heard of the draft, though I am quite actively engaged with the association and planning
efforts in the area. While I am generally pleased that someone is undertaking this effort, my sense is that it could
benefit from more neighborhood engagement. I do not know if this was presented to the Wright Avenue
Neighborhood Association, which also includes a large part of the Central High National Historic District. Both
WANA and CHNI should be included in this discussion.
Have there been any public meetings held on this draft? If so, can you please provide the notices, notes,
presentations and attendance records? Again, in general I am glad to see it, albeit somewhat surprised.
Thanks very much for permitting me to make this input, and please let me know if I need to do anything further to
have this included as a formal comment.
Yours truly,
Paul Dodds
Managing Director
Urban Frontier LLC
501 791 4135