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HDC_03 11 20131 of 19 LITTLE ROCK HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION MINUTES Monday, March 11, 2013, 5:00 p.m. Board Room, City Hall I. Roll Call Quorum was present being seven (7) in number. Members Present: Julie Wiedower Randy Ripley Chris Vanlandingham BJ Bowen Toni Johnson Mark Brown Kwadjo Boaitey (in at 5:05) Members Absent: none City Attorney: Debra Weldon Staff Present: Brian Minyard Citizens Present: Ibrahim Elsaidi Rhea Roberts II. Approval of Minutes A motion was made by Commissioner Julie Wiedower to approve the minutes of February 11, 2013 as submitted. Commissioner BJ Bowen seconded and the minutes were approved with a vote of 4 ayes, 2 abstentions (Wiedower and Vanlandingham) and 1 absent (Boaitey). Notice requirements were meet on the application to be heard tonight. III. Deferred Certificates of Appropriateness None IV. Certificates of Appropriateness DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT 723 West Markham Street Little Rock, Arkansas 72201-1334 Phone: (501) 371-4790 Fax: (501) 399-3435 2 of 19 DATE: March 11, 2013 APPLICANT: Samirah Alwazir ADDRESS: 314 E 6th Street COA REQUEST: Signage PROJECT BACKGROUND AND DESCRIPTION: The subject property is located at 314 E 6th Street. The property’s legal description is “West 26' OF Lot 7 & West 26' of the South 10' OF Lot 8 block 40 Original City of Little Rock, Pulaski County, Arkansas." This one story commercial building was built in the 1960’s. The 2006 survey form states: “This standard Commercial 20th Centruy building has aluminum framed windows and doors at front with side walls and back with no openings. Mansard Roof attached to front wall provides protection over sidewalk. The first occupant was Joseph Pritchard Grocery and remained there through the 1970’s.” It is not considered a "Contributing Structure" to the MacArthur Park Historic District. The application was made on January 14, 2013 before any signs were installed. Since the application time, 4 signs were installed without the approval of the HDC or Planning Commission. This application is for those four signs. PREVIOUS ACTIONS ON THIS SITE: No previous actions were on this site were located with a search of the files. PROPOSAL AND WRITTEN ANALYSIS OF THE APPLICATION BASED OFF OF INTENT AND GUIDELINES: This application is going to the Planning Commission for a Conditional Use Permit on February 21, 2013. The subject of the Conditional Use Permit is for a “food store under 5,000 square feet with sales of beer.” Also included in this application is for signage without street frontage. Signs DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT 723 West Markham Street Little Rock, Arkansas 72201-1334 Phone: (501) 371-4790 Fax: (501) 399-3435 STAFF REPORT ITEM NO. A. Location of Project 3 of 19 must face a street, not a neighboring piece of property as the signs on the east and west sides of the building do. There will also need a franchise permit for the sign on the awning and the ice machine in the front. Franchise permits are for those items that lie within the public right-of-way. The guidelines state on page 78: 5. Signs on Commercial Structures: Signs on commercial buildings should be in proportion to the building and should be made of historic materials, such as finished carved wood, glass, copper, or bronze letters. Signs of plastic, plywood, or unfinished wood are not appropriate. Signs should be placed at traditional locations, such as on storefront beltcourses, upper façade walls, hanging or mounted inside windows, or projecting from the face of the building. Lighting for signs should be concealed; up-lit or spot lighting is recommended. “Ghost” signs (historic painted wall signs, frequently on sides of brick buildings) should be preserved and not removed. The signs on the east and west wall are made of a sheet metal and screwed to the wall. This metal is not a recommended material. Lighting for the signage has not been discussed nor installed. This issue will need to be addressed at the meeting. The guidelines speak of commercial buildings, but our commercial building stock varies in architectural style and age. This is probably the latest built commercial building that is in the district being built around 1960. Sign design for that period of architecture may be different than the carved wood or individual bronze letters mounted on the wall as recommended in the guidelines. The question for the commission is whether the materials, size, and placement of the signs are appropriate for this age of a building. This ice machine in front of the building should also be reviewed. In Section 23-119 of the ordinance, the text states: In its deliberations under this article, the commission shall not consider interior arrangement or use and shall take no action hereunder except for the purpose of preventing the construction, reconstruction, alteration, restoration, moving or demolition of buildings, structures or appurtenant fixtures, in the district, which are deemed by the commission to be obviously incongruous with the historic aspects of the district. The question for the Commission is whether the ice machine is incongruous with the historic aspects of the district. The building has been previously painted yellow, but the Commission does not review paint colors and the masonry building was previously painted gray. The awning has also been repainted to the red color. NEIGHBORHOOD COMMENTS AND REACTION: At the time of distribution, there were no comments regarding this application. 4 of 19 Front façade ca. 2006 Front Façade 1-30-2013 East façade ca. 2006 East Façade 1-30-2013 West façade ca. 2006 West Façade 1-30-2013 STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Approval with the following conditions: 1. Obtaining a building permit for any interior remodeling. 2. Each sign will require a sign permit from the Planning Department. 3. Obtain a Franchise permit for the awning, sign on awning and the ice machine. 5 of 19 COMMISSION ACTION: February 11, 2013 Brian Minyard of Staff explained to the Commission that the notices were not mailed on time and that the item would need to be deferred. He explained that they were five days late on a notice of ten days. The staff has received some green cards back so Staff knows that they did go out. Commissioner Randy Ripley asked how many notices were sent out and Staff replied 23. Mr. Minyard continued that they also have a Conditional Use Permit on this property and told the applicant that they could mail both notifications at the same time in the same envelope. They did that but not in time for the HDC notice. Debra Weldon stated that the bylaws noted that the applicant will be required to re-mail the notices if they missed the first deadline. There was a discussion and it was stated that they had met the deadline for the Planning Commission but had not met the HDC deadline. Mr. Minyard noted that you may mail your notices early in order to meet both deadlines. Commissioner Wiedower asked the applicant if he understood what was happening. Mr. Ibrahim Elsaidi explained that they have posted the sign on the property but claimed he did not know of the deadlines for notifications. Commissioner Wiedower explained that the commission will have to defer until March. She continued that the application was after the fact, the signs were already up on the building. She did not believe it was going to be a hardship, since he already had erected his signs. She continued that they will not have to take the permanent signs down until after the hearing. Mr. Minyard agreed, but added that after approval by the both Commissions, your signage would have to conform to whatever this Commission says. Commissioner Randy Ripley stated that they could not make exceptions for one applicant alone. Commissioner Wiedower made a motion to defer consideration of the item until the March 11, 2013 hearing or until appropriate notices have been met. Commissioner BJ Bowen seconded the motion and the item passed with 5 ayes and 2 absent (Vanlandingham and Brown). Mr. Minyard told the applicant that the latest day to send the notices would be March 1st, 2013. STAFF UPDATE: March 11, 2013 The applicant has changed the signs on the building by removing some and adding others. The current signs are the one over the awning on the front of the building and the pole sign which has two faces. He has removed the two signs on the sides of the building that did not face the West and Front Façade 2-28-2013 East Façade 2-28-2013 6 of 19 street. But, he has added informational signs painted on the glass. The text is “DELI MEATS”, “HOT FOOD”, “DOWNTOWN DELI & GROCERY 501-244-9800”, “GROCERY”, AND “SANDWICHES”. However, the vast majority of the glass has been covered with cigarette ads, ATM sign, Animated Open sign, pizza signs etc. Front Façade 2-28-2013 To restate, the Guidelines on page 78 state that the “Signs on commercial buildings should be in proportion to the building and should be made of historic materials…” What is in proportion to the building? To assist, here is that applicable codes from the city of Little Rock that would be applicable. From Sec. 36-530 Definitions: Sign means any device, structure, fixture or placard using graphics, symbols, and/or written copy designed specifically for the purpose of advertising or identifying any establishment, product, goods or services. Window sign means a sign installed inside a window and intended to be viewed from the outside. Identification sign means a sign whose copy is limited to the name and address of a building, institution, or person and/or to the activity or occupation being identified. 7 of 19 Incidental sign means a sign, emblem or decal informing the public of goods, facilities or services available on the premises, e.g., a credit card sign or a sign indicating the hours of business. On this application, all of the signs in the windows are Incidental Signs. From Sec. 36-553.(a)(2). One (1) freestanding sign per premises, not to exceed two (2) square feet in sign area for each linear foot of main street frontage up to a maximum of sixty-four (64) square feet. Such sign may not exceed a height of six (6) feet. In addition to the above freestanding sign, the owner may use one (1) of the following: Wall or mansard signs not to exceed ten (10) percent in aggregate sign area for that occupancy's facade area or One (1) under-canopy or projecting sign per occupancy, not to exceed twelve (12) square feet in sign area. On this application, the building is 26 feet wide, so the freestanding sign could be a maximum of 52 square feet. This pole mounted freestanding sign is less that that size. From Sec. 36-553.(a)(2). a. Wall or mansard signs not to exceed ten (10) percent in aggregate sign area for that occupancy's facade area. On this application, the mansard sign could be a maximum of 41 square feet. The current sign is approximately 42.74 square feet. From Sec. 36-557(e) Within the institutional and office, commercial and industrial districts, each premises may utilize incidental signs not to exceed twenty (20) square feet in aggregate sign area per occupancy. On this application, the Incidental Signs are the Newport cigarette signs, the pizza sign, the ATM sign, and the “OPEN” sign that is not permanently attached to the windows. The words “DELI MEATS”, “HOT FOOD”, “DOWNTOWN DELI & GROCERY 501-244-9800”, “GROCERY”, AND “SANDWICHES” are vinyl lettering applied to the windows. Each window is approximately 32 square feet in area for a total of 64 s.f. With the 20 square feet maximum, less than one third of the windows could be covered in signs and be in compliance. This location is currently being reviewed for the sale of beer. Neon beer signs that might be hung in the windows would also be considered incidental signage. If the building was not in the Historic District, the signage would be in compliance with the exception of the incidental signs. However, the Guidelines state that the signage should be in proportion to the building. The previous discussion was to give the Commission some other codes to consider in making their decision. Staff believes that the fixed signage (mansard sign and pole mounted sign) is proportional to the building. Staff believes that the incidental signs pictured in the photo above contribute to clutter in the district and are inappropriate. Security can be enhanced if the windows are left clear so that people can see into and out of the store. Staff believes that the incidental signs should be limited to the vinyl signage on the windows at this time, the “OPEN” sign and one (1) neon beer sign in the eastern most window if beer is approved for that location. The ice machine and the newspaper box will require a franchise from Public Works. The Commission does not review exterior paint colors on this building because the exterior has previously been painted. However, the new painting of the building has not been completed. 8 of 19 STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Approval with the following conditions: 1. Limit signage to the sign on mansard awning, pole sign, “DELI MEATS”, “HOT FOOD”, “DOWNTOWN DELI & GROCERY 501-244-9800”, “GROCERY”, AND “SANDWICHES” incidental signs affixed to the window in vinyl lettering, “OPEN” sign and one (1) neon beer sign in easternmost window if beer is approved for this location. 2. Obtaining a building permit for any interior remodeling and any exterior improvements. 3. Complete painting of the exterior of the building. 4. Each sign will require a sign permit from the Planning Department. 5. Obtain a Franchise permit for the awning, sign on awning and the ice machine. COMMISSION ACTION: March 11, 2013 Brian Minyard, Staff, made a brief presentation to the Commission with Staff recommendation. Commissioner Julie Wiedower asked if the two signs on the side of the building were in the recommendation. Mr. Minyard said that they were not. Chairman Chris Vanlandingham asked if the Commission had purview on items such as the ice machine. Debra Weldon, City Attorney’s Office, stated that the Commission did. Commissioner Mark Brown recused himself from the item since he owns property within the 150’ area. Ibrahim (Sam) Elsaidi addressed the Commission. Mr. Elsaidi said that he had no objection to the Staff recommendation. He did want to add a sign on the back of the building for visibility from Capitol Avenue. He said that the vendors put the signs in the front windows and that the vendors wanted them there. He claimed that the signs in the windows added security to the building. Commissioner Wiedower wanted to know what the sign on the rear of the building would be like. He replied that it was one of the signs he took down from the side of the building. She asked if it would be centered on the building and how high it would be located. Mr. Minyard stated that the policy of the Commission was to review things visible from a public street and that this would need to be reviewed since it would be visible from Capitol Avenue. He continued that this would need to be added to his Conditional Use Permit to be heard at the Planning Commission. Chairman Vanlandingham spoke in favor of reducing the clutter in the window. He also spoke that he was in favor of him opening a business in the neighborhood. Commissioner Randy Ripley asked about the bars on the doors and windows. These were installed inside the glass horizontally. Commissioner Wiedower asked about a trash receptacle outside on the sidewalk. Mr. Elsaidi replied that there was a trash can just inside the door. Commissioner Ripley asked what they did with their boxes since they do not own any land other than the building. Mr. Elsaidi said they rented space from the American Legion for a dumpster. More discussion was held on the layout of the rear of the building and it was determined that the sign would be centered on the building at the top of the wall, not above the wall. Mr. Elsaidi verbally amended his application to add the rear sign. Commissioner Wiedower made a motion to approve the amended application to include a sign at the rear of the building and the five items in the Staff recommendation. Commissioner Toni 9 of 19 Johnston seconded and the motion passed with a vote of 6 ayes and 1 recusal (Brown). Mark Brown rejoined the meeting after the vote at 5:27. 10 of 19 DATE: March 11, 2013 APPLICANT: Staff ADDRESS: District Wide REQUEST: Amend Guidelines to create Institutional Category BACKGROUND AND DESCRIPTION: During the December 10, 2012 HDC meeting, the commission reviewed a COA for a fence at the northeast corner of MacArthur Park at the playground site. The subject arose that the existing Guidelines may not be the most appropriate since the application was neither Residential nor commercial. The applicant withdrew the fencing component of the item. Staff announced to the commission that this item would be on the next agenda for their discussion. For the purpose of this discussion, Staff determined that institutional uses are properties of at least one-half block in size that houses a public use: a church, a school, a museum, a park, etc. Letters were sent to the following institutions to ask them to attend this hearing: Quapaw Quarter Association, St. Edwards Church/School, MacArthur Museum of Arkansas Military History, Arkansas Arts Center, Rockefeller Magnet School/ LRSD, City of Little Rock Parks and Recreation and the Lutheran Church. This letter stated that the commission would be discussing items such as signage, fencing, setbacks of buildings, building heights, building materials, etc. PREVIOUS ACTIONS: The guidelines have been amended in the past, most notably in May 2006 and again in August 2010. The commission has the authority to amend their guidelines and adopt the changes. The state statute under section 14-172-207, states that the proposed historic district shall have an ordinance designed to implement the provisions of the subchapter. The city ordinance under section 23-100 States: Sec. 23-100. - Duties generally. (a) Historic district guidelines. (1) The historic district commission shall adopt design review guidelines for each local ordinance historic district established pursuant to this article. The guidelines should provide the commissioners with an objective standard for decisions concerning the appropriateness of a project in relation to the architectural and historical character of the district. DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT 723 West Markham Street Little Rock, Arkansas 72201-1334 Phone: (501) 371-4790 Fax: (501) 399-3435 STAFF REPORT ITEM NO. 11 of 19 (2) Design review guidelines shall be reviewed periodically by the historic district commission for needed revision to ensure that the guidelines are well adapted to the respective local ordinance historic district. The current Guidelines state the following concerning Institutional uses. On page 69, there is reference to “Commercial, Office and Institutional Parking.” And on page 70, there is reference to “Garbage collectors” for multifamily and institutional sites. A word search of the guidelines found the word institutional elsewhere only in the appendices. Staff would propose the following timeline for this item: 1. Listening session on what changes are desired from the various institutions. 2. Discussion by the commission of various topics posed by the citizens. 3. Draft of language and graphics submitted by Staff to the Commission for review. 4. Discussion by commission on draft language and graphics. 5. Public hearing on revised language. 6. Adoption of new Guidelines. This review will take an expected four to five months. With this review, other sections of the guidelines will be affected when text is moved to a different section or clarified that it does or does not apply to institutional uses. NEIGHBORHOOD COMMENTS AND REACTION: At the time of distribution, there was one comment regarding this item from Stephan McAteer of the MacArthur Museum of Arkansas Military History concerning process. COMMISSION ACTION: January 14, 2013 Brian Minyard, Staff, made a presentation on the Guidelines item. Ron Ross, Parks and Recreation, started a general discussion of how to relate to the guidelines and educational values of preservation and helping find ways to do so. He stated that he may not be totally prepared to have a discussion on the guidelines and would appreciate more time to come up with items for discussion. He commented that the last application started to do so. He urged flexibility in interpreting the guidelines. The past application may have taken a different look of there were different guidelines in place, in particular the height of the fencing. He does look forward to the conversation. Stephen McAteer stated that he was not here representing the MacArthur Museum of Arkansas Military History. He did state that he works in a 173 year old building and was representing the MacArthur Park Group that has meet for the last six years in the museum. They have a diverse group to promote and utilize MacArthur Park as a green park. The park is interpreted in many periods of time. He stated that he stands by his statement of what is good for the park is good for the Museum and vice versa. He spoke of the Master Plan process and that it spoke of Safety. He spoke of proposed improvements to the playground. They have heard from parents of students that use the park concerned with safety. In hindsight, they should have stressed safety instead of trying to keep undesirable people out of the park. He urged for wiggle room from current guidelines and how to modify to make park more viable and user friendly. Commissioner Julie Wiedower asked if there was information on the usage of the playground outside of St. Edwards. She said that there is adult supervision when the school children are 12 of 19 there, but who else uses it? Mr. McAteer did not have any stats on that. He thought that there should not be any extraordinary accommodations for St. Edwards to use the playground. He has seen parents with children on the weekend. With the fence being down, it has allowed for more traffic for non-playground traffic in the immediate area. He thought that maybe different heights on different sides of the playground. We can talk as adults what we would do, but children do not always practice good judgment (i.e.: chasing balls into the roadway). When asked about moving the playground to a different spot, he commented that it was like a house of cards of moving other activities around to find a different spot for the playground. The height of the current fence was discussed and it is 36” tall in the iron section and 40”tall in the brick sections. He continued that the new drives have put a new complexion on the park for the better. He was willing to trust the authorities on the placement and it is good to be able to park near the pond. He has noticed increased usage in area of increased lighting and the new drive areas. He has also noted more usage by females by themselves in the park. Mr. McAteer noted that they have funds for the dog park and hopefully will be done in six months or so. Commissioner Randy Ripley stated that he would like to think that the dog park will create a more defensible space in the Park with more visibility from the freeway. He stated that more good users than bad users. Chairman Chris Vanlandingham noted that the great lawn along Ninth Street was getting more uses. Commissioner Ripley stated that the park should be defined as a destination, and it could be as big as the River Market. Mr. McAteer noted that the Arkansas Arts Center has a lot of students there and a lot of them have lunch in the park. Students on fieldtrips use the playground. Commissioner Ripley says the park should be more diverse for more types of users. Commissioner Wiedower spoke of conflict between St. Edwards’s children and other children. Mr. McAteer stated that the St Edwards children were there at recess, but not at lunch. He continued that there is a lot of acreage at the park and it was more convenient for kids to use the south end of the park. Commissioner Wiedower commented on the large variety of institutional uses in the area and named several. Chairman Vanlandingham stressed prospective in the guidelines. He continued that we have the opportunity to create a fabric for the district with design elements that weaves the district together. Commissioner Ripley is not in favor of modern contemporary fences and should be woven into the historic district better. Commissioner Wiedower asked Staff to make a map of the institutional uses, including all churches. She asked to add the commercial buildings also. A discussion on fences at the institutional uses was held and Chairman Vanlandingham stated that the fences were all over the place for institutional uses. There was a brief discussion on establishing precedent and how the HDC does not establish precedent on any of its cases. Debra Weldon weighed in on the subject and state that there needs to be a standard of review for each case or it could; be found that your decisions were arbitrary or capricious. 13 of 19 STAFF UPDATE: February 11, 2011 Institutional uses are typically defined as public and quasi-public facilities that provide a variety of services to the community such as schools, libraries, fire stations, churches, utility substations and hospitals. The district has schools, fire stations, and churches in addition to police stations, museums, parks, etc. Currently the Guidelines do not have a separate category for institutional uses. If a category were to be added to the Guidelines, the other sections would need to be named or renamed. As of the current August 2010 version, Commercial is called out and everything else is in the other category. At the end of this report is a map of the institutional uses that were either built as institutional or currently function as institutional uses. It also includes those buildings that were built to a commercial standard. It is Staff’s opinion that there are four options on changes to the guidelines: 1) review changes based on what the building is used for now, 2) what the building was originally built for, 3) review based on the scale of the building’s scale/placement on the lot and size of the grounds, and 4) no change to the guidelines. When considering these proposed changes, note what buildings are being grouped together and if those buildings should be reviewed with the same guidelines. These four categories will be explored after the chart. Later in this report, they are referred to as “major categories.” Below is chart of properties for the commission to consider. The options discussed later in the report reference the columns to the right of the chart. What: Location Built as: Used As: Scale: Police Station 301 E Capitol Institutional - Police Station Institutional Commercial Paragon Building 311 E Capitol Commercial Institutional Commercial Legion Post 315 E Capitol Institutional Institutional Commercial Trapnall Hall 423 E Capitol Residential - Single Family Institutional Residential - large lot Curran Hall 615 E Capitol Residential - Single Family Institutional Residential - large lot Lucky & Diner 314 E 6th Commercial Commercial Commercial Lutheran Church 314 E 8th Institutional - Church/classrooms and 2 residences Institutional Institutional Terry Mansion 411 E 7th Residential - Single Family Institutional Residential - large lot Kramer Elementary 715 Sherman Institutional - School Residential Institutional - large lot Cumberland Towers 311 E 8th Residential - Apartments Residential Residential – large lot Commercial block 400-402 E 9th Commercial Commercial Commercial Fire Station 524 E 9th Institutional - Fire Station Institutional Institutional 14 of 19 St. Edwards Church 821 Sherman Institutional - Church, convent, school, residence Institutional Institutional Knights of Columbus 215 E 9th Institutional- hall Commercial Commercial Commercial Block 901 Rock / 407 E 9th Commercial Commercial Commercial Arkansas Arts Center 501 E 9th Institutional - Arts center Institutional Institutional – large lot Arsenal Building 503 E 9th Institutional - Arsenal Institutional Institutional – large lot MacArthur Park 9th, commerce, McMath Institutional - Arsenal grounds Institutional Institutional - large lot Red Crown/Fashion Park Cleaners 1101 Cumberland Commercial - Water Bottling Company Commercial Commercial Teacher retirement 1200 Commerce Residential - Apartments Residential Residential – large lot Law School Dorms 1016 McGowan Residential - Apartments Residential Institutional UAMS Hospital / law School 1215 McMath Institutional - Hospital Institutional Institutional – large lot East Side School 1401 Scott / 1400 Cumberland Institutional - School Residential Institutional - large lot Rockefeller School 700 E 17th Institutional - School Institutional Institutional – large lot Many houses and apartment building on single lots Residential Residential Residential Houses converted to office space Residential Commercial Residential Option One: Review changes on what the building is used for now. If the Guidelines divided the uses as to what they were used as now, the following major categories would emerge. Those being used as Commercial would be the Lucky 7 Diner, the commercial blocks in the 400 block of 9th and the Fashion Park Cleaners would be reviewed the same under the Commercial section. The Residential section would be Kramer School and Eastside School apartments; the Law School Dorms; the apartment towers of Cumberland Towers and the Teacher Retirement apartments; and all other single and multifamily buildings would be reviewed the same under the Residential section. The rest would be Institutional uses. The guidelines would treat all of these applications in these three major categories, instead of the two we have now (Commercial and everything else.) If a building has changed 15 of 19 uses, would the new guidelines fit? Does Eastside School need the same guidelines as a single family house? Option Two: Review the changes on what the building was built for originally. With this option, the major categories would be a follows: The Paragon Building, the commercial blocks in the 400 block of 9th and the Fashion Park Cleaners would be reviewed as Commercial. The institutional uses would be the schools converted to apartments, museums, fire/police stations, and fraternal organizations which would be reviewed the same under the Institutional section. The apartment buildings (including towers) single family homes, dorms, Trapnall and Curran Halls and the Terry Mansion would be reviewed the same under the Residential section. Should the Cumberland Towers be reviewed by same standard as a single family house? Should the police station be held to the same standard as MacArthur Park? Option Three: Review the changes based on the scale of the buildings/grounds. Commercial buildings typically sit on the front property line, are most if not all of the entire width of the property, and have the architectural style of 19th or 20th Century commercial structures. The Police Station / Paragon building, the commercial blocks on E 9th, the Legion Post, Knights of Columbus, and Fashion Park Cleaners would be reviewed under the major category “Commercial Scale” standards. The next group of buildings would be all churches, the Fire Station, Law school dorms, schools converted to housing, MacArthur Park, the Arts Center and the Law School. These buildings have various architectural styles, but have mass of building in common. These properties also have the largest front lawns and a larger footprint to lot ratio. These would be reviewed under the major category “Large Scale” Standards. Buildings built as residential houses, houses converted to office uses, and small scale apartments will be reviewed under the “Small Scale” standards. Option Four – do nothing. Within the current Guidelines, the “Design Guidelines for Rehabilitation”, in Section IV deals with all structures in the district, even though the language states “house” in several locations. If that word were switched to “building” or “structure”, there would not be a question that it related to all buildings in the districts. Section V. Design Guidelines for Alterations and Additions and Detached New Construction is written to address all buildings in the district. There could be another graphic showing commercial or institutional uses at the end of new Construction of primary and secondary buildings. The graphics are geared toward s the residential instead of all types of uses. Section VI, Design Guidelines for Site Design needs to be revamped. Landscape Features (Sidewalks, Planned Green Space, Fences and Retaining Walls), Lighting, parking areas, mechanical systems and signage should be adjusted to the different categories as spelled out in the four options above. Fences could be of a different scale for the large scale properties and/or institutional uses. In the parking section on page 69, is one of the two spots in the Guidelines where the word institutional is used. There it is lumped in with commercial and office uses. This language works for all of those uses, but may need to be repeated in the different sections. Other things need to be revised in this section, but they are not discerned at this time. Section VIII. Guidelines for Commercial Structures works well for the traditional commercial structures as found along 9th Street. Although, the guidelines assume all of the districts commercial structures are two story buildings, which in fact they are not. Another graphic needs 16 of 19 to be added to address one story buildings. Signs are addressed here, but are limited to the late 19th and early 20th century buildings based on the text. One suggestion would be to leave sections I-IV as they are now with changing the references to buildings or structures instead of houses. Section VI, Design Guidelines for Site Design would have three subsections with the different categories (addressing parking, for example, under each category) or address each category in the text as it is shown now (addressing the three major categories under parking with a side by side caparison.) Section VIII Guidelines for Commercial Structures would be melded into Sections VI and IV as needed. Section VI, Guidelines for Relocation and Demolition would remain as is. Another suggestion is to place all of the treatment of original materials and individual building elements in the same section (Section IV). Section V Design Guidelines for Additions and Alterations would address all three major categories. A new section would be added to address new construction of all major categories. Section VI Design guidelines for Site Design would also address the three major categories. COMMISSION ACTION: February 11, 2013 Brian Minyard made a presentation of the update to the Commission and covered the various options. He summarized the staff report and what problems arise. Option 1 was to review buildings as they are used now. Option 2 is to review the changes on what the building was built for originally. Option 3 is to review the changes based on the scale of the buildings/grounds. Option 4 is to do nothing. He asked for some guidance from the Commission on how to organize the information or changes to the text to give back to the Commission. Commissioner Julie Wiedower was not convinced that we needed to do a lot---- maintaining a feeling for the overall district. She was sorry that Commissioner Mark Brown was not there and wanted to hear his thoughts. She is not sure that Options 1 and 2 may not be germane to keeping the feel of the district. Option 3 may make sense based on scale. You may need a higher fence because you are fencing a larger area. A discussion centered on surveys of other towns and what they do. Mr. Minyard stated that he had polled the state CLG partners and posted it on the NAPC listserv. He replied to Commissioner Wiedower that if we handled it this way, we would be breaking new ground. Commissioner Wiedower said that if the only instance was the fence at MacArthur Park, it was not necessary to rewrite the Guidelines. Mr. Minyard stated that the Guidelines were just that, guidelines. If the Commission felt there was a reason for a different height, they would state so in the deliberations. Commissioner Randy Ripley stated he had similar thoughts as Commissioner Wiedower. Options 1 and 2 create some restriction that would be on some properties, he would want all decisions to be equitable. He stated he may lean towards doing nothing. In some cases, he would look at the building as how it is used now, versus how it was used originally. Each case would be different. Commissioner Toni Johnson agreed with the two previous Commissioners. New Construction will be the hardest cases. She wants to look closer on infill structures because they are having more variety coming in front of the Commission. She commented when she read the Guidelines, sometimes there was not enough guidance in the text. Commissioner Ripley stated that developers want to build market driven products which puts a quandary for contemporary infill. 17 of 19 Commissioner BJ Bowen sees more people coming in for fencing, higher for security, but not enough to go by in Guidelines. He wants more text for fencing in Guidelines. Commissioner Wiedower stated that the Fire Station and the state owned law school already have 6’ fences in some areas. She wondered if rewriting the Guidelines was a valid use of time. Or do we just look at fencing? She would like to hear Commissioner Brown’s comments on this. Commissioner Kwadjo Boaitey is leaning towards Option 3 or Option 4. He continued that fences were subjective based on who and when they were approved. Commissioner Wiedower stated that fences come and go, but the buildings were the important thing. Mr. Minyard clarified that when he said Option 4 was do nothing; he was being a bit simplistic. In Section 4, the word house may need to be changed to the word building. In the Legal section, it has been discussed to put the state of emergency clause in there, there are some typos in the document, and two pages out of order. These would be considered as cleanup, not a total rewrite. On the fencing item, it may be as simple as adding text to the effect of different scales of buildings and grounds may dictate different scales of fencing. It was decided that the scale of the fencing versus open space would be the talk for the next hearing. Commissioner Ripley commented on the space between the building and the fence made a difference in the height of the fence. Commissioner Wiedower asked to continue the discussion next month on fencing and scale. Mr. Minyard said that he would take the text of the Guidelines and mark up the changes. Commissioner Boaitey asked about the time limits on COAs and if it needed to be added to the Guideline discussion. Debra Weldon asked if it was most appropriate in the bylaws. It was discussed if we needed to attach the bylaws to the applications. Maybe it would be included in the instruction pages. STAFF UPDATE: March 11, 2013 Staff updated the Guidelines using a modified Option 4. Minor changes were made to make Section IV Design Guidelines for Rehabilitation read to include all buildings, not just houses. Included in your packets are PDFs of the modified sheets out of the guidelines. The changes are in bold red letters. The majority of the changes are from the word “house” to the word “building”. Occasionally, there was a misspelled word that has been corrected. There are additional sentences concerning fencing and streetscape at commercial buildings. There is notation of needing additional photos on one page. Not shown is the following changes that need to be made and updated. Appendix A Map of all Historic districts, Appendix B listing of the National Register Districts, Appendix E COA application package, Appendix F Sample COA, Appendix G Sample COC, Overall map of Mac Arthur Park Historic District, Acknowledgements page, Table of Contents, and Cover. The pages will be renumbered with the forward in roman numerals which means the PDFs that are in this package are numbered 8 pages less than in the current version of the Guidelines, i.e.; Page 80 in the current version is now page 72 in the proposed version. 18 of 19 COMMISSION ACTION: March 11, 2013 Brian Minyard, Staff, made a brief presentation to the Commission with the updated changes going with the modified Option 4 replacing the word “houses” with the word “building”. All of the pages with changes were sent to the Commissioners. They discussed the commercial streetscape edits and fencing edits. They discussed overall fence requirements citywide versus what is required in MacArthur Park. It was stated by both staff that the Historic District commission cannot grant variances to the City code. When the applicant needs a variance from the city code, the HDC makes a recommendation to the governing body. The HDC can make a COA that is more restrictive than the code, but cannot grant variances. Commissioner Julie Wiedower asked about the heights for different types of fences. The guidelines state 36” for wood fences but do not specifically state 36” for iron or other types of fences. Mr. Minyard said that he would work on that. Commissioner Vanlandingham asked if a summary of heights on fences; a quick answer on top of paragraph; could be added to the top of the different sections of the guidelines. He asked to check on the fencing and other sections. Mr. Minyard continued that he changed the section on Commercial sidewalks on old page 78 of the guidelines. Commissioner Vanlandingham asked about the list of commercial buildings that was listed in the Staff report when it comes to zoning. Mr. Minyard explained the zoning category of O-2 Office and Institutional and how that affects the MacArthur Park Historic District. The park itself is zoned PR – Parks and Recreation and related the fence and use requirements of that zoning. Mr. Minyard answered that there needed to be some additional edits on the Guidelines that will need to be done before the final vote. There was a discussion on whether the timeline of projects should be in the Guidelines or on application. It was decided that it could be included on the application. Debra Weldon, City Attorney’s office, spoke about the emergency waiver conditions and whether they should be included in the Guidelines’ Legal Authority section. The emergency conditions would vary concerning the incident so it would be difficult to predict what the state of emergency would entail by mayoral proclamation. She is concerned that it could be misconstrued what a state of emergency means and the extent geographically and for what review items or procedures would be included. She suggested that it be left as an administrative staff procedure. After discussion, neglectful maintenance does not constitute a state of emergency. IM V. Other Matters Enforcement issues Send COC list to the Commission. Citizen Communication There were no citizens present at this time. Commissioner Julie Wiedower commented to Rhea Roberts that she was appreciative of QQA's efforts for conversation advocating for preservation of the houses on Cantrell Road. Adjournment There was a motion to adjourn and the meeting ended at 5:50 p.m. Attest: air Secretary /Staff 19 of 19 Date Date `(- Y-- l