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LITTLE ROCK HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
MINUTES
Monday, December 10, 2012, 5:00 p.m.
Board Room, City Hall
I. Roll Call
Quorum was present being seven (7) in number.
Members Present: Julie Wiedower
Randy Ripley
Chris Vanlandingham
BJ Bowen
Toni Johnson
Mark Brown
Kwadjo Boaitey
Members Absent: none
City Attorney: Debra Weldon
Staff Present: Brian Minyard
Citizens Present: Ron Ross
Keith Canfield
George Campbell
Stephan McAteer
Byl Harrell
Notice requirements were meet on both applications to be heard tonight.
II. Deferred Certificates of Appropriateness
None
III. Certificates of Appropriateness
DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT
723 West Markham Street
Little Rock, Arkansas 72201-1334
Phone: (501) 371-4790 Fax: (501) 399-3435
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DATE: December 10, 2012
APPLICANT: Ron Ross, Parks and Recreation
ADDRESS: 503 E 9th Street
COA REQUEST: Signage and Fencing
PROJECT BACKGROUND AND DESCRIPTION:
The subject property is located at 503 East 9th Street.
The property’s legal description is “That part NW lying E
of Quapaw Line W of McAlmont Street & North of E 13th
Street in Township 1N, Range 12 W Sections 2 and 11,
Little Rock, Pulaski County, Arkansas."
The Arsenal Building was built in the 1840’s and is a
national landmark, the highest recognition of a historic
building. The structure is a contributing structure in the
district.
This application is for 6 new signs for the MacArthur Park
activities. The signs are for the Bike Polo court; the
Amphitheater/Pond/Dog Park; Arkansas Arts Center;
Multiple use sign; and the wayfinding sign. This Plan for
the signage will need to be presented to the Parks
Commission.
PREVIOUS ACTIONS ON THIS SITE:
There have been numerous COA’s on the park property. Relevant ones are below:
On March 12, 2012, a COA was approved for a sign at the Firehouse Hostel and Museum.
On January 31, 2011, A COA was approved for two new signs for the MacArthur Museum of
Arkansas Military History and for a directional sign for the MacArthur Museum of Arkansas
Military History and the Arkansas Korean War Veterans Memorial.
On September 13, 2010, a COA was issued for a new park sign for the identification of the park
to be located near the intersection of Sherman and 9th Street.
DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT
723 West Markham Street
Little Rock, Arkansas 72201-1334
Phone: (501) 371-4790 Fax: (501) 399-3435
STAFF REPORT
ITEM NO. One.
Location of Project
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WRITTEN ANALYSIS OF THE APPLICATION BASED OFF OF INTENT AND GUIDELINES:
The Secretary of Interior’s Standards for Rehabilitation #3 states: Each property will be
recognized as a physical record of its time, place, and use. Changes that create a false sense
of historical development, such as adding conjectural features or elements from other historic
properties, will not be undertaken. For this application, Staff interprets this as not adding faux
Federal style signage to the park to match the Federal style building of the Arsenal.
SIGNS:
The signs are contemporary (of today’s design) and will not be interpreted as a faux historic
sign. These signs will continue the theme of the previously approved sign for the entire park that
will be installed near the intersection of Sherman and Ninth Streets. All signs will have ground
mounted floodlights.
Below is a breakdown of all signs already approved and included in this application:
# SIGN NAME PROPOSED
TEXT
DETAIL
PAGE
#
LOCATION APPROVED BUILT HEIGHT
1 MacArthur
Museum of
Arkansas
Military
History & Ark,
Korean War
Veterans
Memorial
MACARTHUR
MUSEUM OF
ARKANSAS
MILITARY
HISTORY
ARKANSAS
KOREAN WAR
VETERANS
MEMORIAL
NA Southwest
corner of
Ninth and
Crescent
Drive
01-31-2011 yes 8’-8”
2 Firehouse
Hostel
FIREHOUSE
HOSTEL
AND
MUSEUM
NA 1201
Commerce
03-12-12 no 5’-10”
3 MacArthur
Park
MACARTHUR
PARK
NA Ninth and
Sherman
Streets
yes Under
const.
24’-0”
4 Dog Park DOG PARK 3 McMath
Blvd at
roundabout
no no 8’-8”
5 Bicycle Polo BICYCLE
POLO
1 McMath
Blvd south
of 10th at
courts
no no 8’-8”
6 Amphitheater
and Pond &
Dog Park
AMPHITHEATER
POND
DOG PARK
2 / 2A Northeast
corner of
Commerce
no no 8’-8”
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and Pulaski
Lane
7 Arkansas Arts
Center
ARKANSAS
ARTS
CENTER
4 Southeast
corner of
Ninth and
Commerce
no no 8’-8”
8 Dog Park,
Bicycle Polo,
Pond and
UALR Law
School
DOG PARK
BICYCLE POLO
UALR LAW
SCHOOL
AMPHITHEATER
POND
5 Southwest
corner of
McMath
Blvd and
Ninth
Street.
no no 8’-8”
9 Wayfinding
sign
KOREAN
WAR
MEMORIAL
RESTROOM
PAVILION
STAGE
POND
DRINKS
5A Center of
park south
and east of
both
museums
no no 6’-9” ±
Sign #1 at Ninth and Crescent Drive. Sign #3 at Ninth and Sherman Drive.
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FENCING:
Page 66 of the current Guidelines state:
3. Fences and Retaining Walls:
Iron, wood, stone, or brick fences
or walls that are original to the
property (at least 50 years old)
should be preserved. If missing,
they may be reconstructed based
on physical or pictorial evidence.
Sometimes a low stone or brick
wall supports an iron or wooden
fence.
Fencing material should be
appropriate to the style and period
of the house. Cast iron fences
were common through the Victorian period and should be retained and
maintained. Wrought iron and bent wire fences are also historic.
Wood picket fences may be located in front, side, or rear yards, generally
following property lines. They should be no taller than three feet (36”) tall;
pickets should be no wider than four inches (4”) and set no farther apart than
three inches (3“). The design shall be compatible with and proportionate to the
house.
Wood board privacy fences should be located in rear yards. They should be no
taller than six feet (72”), of flat boards in a single row (not stockade or
shadowbox), and of a design compatible with the structure. The privacy fence
should be set back from the front façade of the structure at least halfway
between the front and back walls.
Chain-link fences may be located only in rear yards, where not readily visible
from the street, and should be coated dark green or black. Screening with plant
material is recommended.
Fences should not have brick, stone, or concrete piers or posts unless based on
pictorial or physical evidence. Free-standing walls of brick, stone, or concrete
are not appropriate.
New retaining landscape walls are discouraged in front yards. Certain front
yards that are in close proximity to the sidewalk may feature new walls that
match the materials of the building and be consistent with historic walls in the
neighborhood. Landscaping walls should match the materials of the building and
be consistent with historic walls in the neighborhood.
The fence’s purpose is to enclose the playground area of the park, which is used by park
patrons and St. Edwards School on a regular basis. This fence provides security for children
playing in the playground area adjacent to Ninth Street. The fence has been partially
dismantled with the construction of McMath Boulevard. The section along McMath has been
taken down, but the section along Ninth is still in place. The fence now has brick panels in the
Arkansas Arts Center sign to be replaced.
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fence with a curve set into the brick. The brick sections are 40” tall and the iron sections are
approximately 45” tall. The new fence will not feature the curves, it will feature straight lines.
The fence originally bordered Ninth and McMath. The proposal is to totally enclose an area
surrounded by Ninth, McMath, Tenth, a private drive, and Crescent Drive. It will have two gates
on the western side of the enclosure for access. The fence will be about 20’ off the curb on
Ninth Street, and about 8’ off the property line. On McMath, it will be about 32’ off the curb and
10’ off the sidewalk. On Tenth Street, it will be 30’ off the curb line. The proposed fence is 4’
tall as stated on the cover letter, but the drawings show a 6’ fence in dimension. The Plan
shows the older brick section of the fence
removed, but the letter states that the new
fence “complements the park, as well as, the
existing wrought iron brick paneled fence
that remains.”
There have been fences along Ninth Street
at the Arsenal before. The photo to the right
shows one circa 1900 at the west entrance
of Ninth and Crescent Drive. The fence that
is to be proposed is not a recreation of this
fence, but a modern fence.
Crescent Drive frontage of existing fencing Detail of existing iron fence
Fence at the west end of Crescent Drive and Ninth
ca. 1900
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View towards 9th Street with 40” tall brick panels. View towards 9th Street
NEIGHBORHOOD COMMENTS AND REACTION: At the time of distribution, there was one
comment of a neutral nature regarding this application.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Approval with the following conditions:
1. Obtaining a building permit.
2. Clarification of height of fence, location of, and any further demolition of existing fencing.
COMMISSION ACTION: December 10, 2012
Brian Minyard, Staff, made a presentation of the item and noted that the Staff recommendation
was for the signs as submitted but was for a 4’ fence, not a six foot fence.
Ron Ross, Parks and Recreation, noted that the signs were in the same theme as approved
before. Concerning the fencing, the desire was to remove all of the fencing and replace with a
fence that was six feet tall. He has been working with the MacArthur Park Group and St.
Andrews School. St. Andrews wants a six foot fence barrier for traffic and from pedestrians.
This would give the parents a better sense of security.
Chairman Chris Vanlandingham asked if this was the finished sketch. Mr. Ross said yes. Mr.
Ross said it was an iron fence and that people would not be able to sit on an iron fence or hang
stuff on the fence as before.
Commissioner Toni Johnson asked if the gate would be locked to the playground area. Mr.
Ross said that the gates would be control points for entry. Commissioner Julie Wiedower asked
where the gates are proposed. Mr. Ross said that they were on the west side and that they
were 6’ gates. He continued by answering Commissioner Wiedower’s question that the material
will be wrought iron. Commissioner Vanlandingham commented on the 1000 feet of fence and
that it was about keeping people out rather than letting people in. He understands that it may
be necessary at this time. He continued that we need to stop creating barriers to the
neighborhood and to keep that in mind for the future. He commented that a six foot fence was
very standoff-ish. He asked about the fence height in other parks. Commissioner Wiedower
commented that there were no fences at Murray Park or War Memorial Park. Mr. Ross stated
that Prospect Terrace and Pettaway have fences but most playgrounds do not have a fence
around them. The fence in Pettaway is five feet including the stone base.
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Chairman Vanlandingham asked if this action would complete the signage for the park and what
was the timeline. Mr. Ross said that there was no definite timeline for completion.
Commissioner Wiedower complimented Mr. Ross on the quality of his presentation and agreed
with the design of the signage. She noted that she has a problem with the height of t he fence.
She commented that it is great the St. Edwards School uses the park and that the perception is
that St. Edwards owns that corner of the park. She has not heard of incidents that would
necessitate a six foot fence and think that a four foot fence would be adequate. The district has
guidelines and the Commission has been flexible in the past. If the commission constantly
overrides the guidelines, the Commission will have to start explaining why. Commissioner
Boaitey agreed with Commissioner Wiedower’s comments.
Commissioner Randy Ripley commented that the drawings were good. He advocated features
that create community ownership and continued that the fence is more about barrier than
defining space. He would prefer the fence to be less jail like. He continued about the difference
in defined and non-defined space and the sense of ownership. He prefers finials on the top and
thinks it would be more time period appropriate instead of no finials. He also agrees with
Commissioner Wiedower and Commissioner Boaitey.
Commissioner Johnson asked if a fence had finials and was shorter, would it deter people from
climbing the fence. Commissioner Ripley stated that anybody that wanted in can get over a
fence.
Commissioner Mark Brown commented that the same guidelines were applied for all fences,
whether they are commercial, residential or institutional. Other urban areas have higher fences,
some up to 12’. The Commission may want to consider different heights for parks.
Commissioner Wiedower asked if the MacArthur Park Master Plan addressed fencing. Stephan
McAteer stated it did not. Commissioner Wiedower continued that deterring illegal activities is a
police issue, not a fencing issue.
Mr. Ross stated that he hears the comments and will consider them going forward on this
project.
Keith Canfield stated he lives in the 1400 block of Rock. He is a volunteer Park Ranger. He
said historically there was a large iron fence that covered the entire perimeter of the park. They
are only proposing the area around the playground at this time. He said the high traffic corner
and the undesirable transients are the major impetus for the fence. He continued that in his 92
visits to the park, 42 percent of the time adults are sitting on the benches smoking and drinking
and has found cigarette butts, beer bottles and other bottles. He understands the reticence of a
six foot fence around the roughly 8000 feet of the perimeter of the entire park.
Mr. Canfield states that the MacArthur Park group feels a sense of ownership of the park and
did not want to use the fences to enable a particular activity. He does not believe that police
and parks departments can fix the problems. He referenced a citizen survey that advocated for
a single access point for the park. Commissioner Wiedower stated that she attended some of
the presentation for the Master Plan and does not remember this being addressed. She asked
about moving the playground to another site away from the traffic. Mr. Canfield said that the
playground was scheduled to be upgraded in its current location.
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Commissioner Brown asked Mr. Canfield what he thought about the four foot fence. He replied
that he did not think it provided much of a barrier for the traffic and that the finials can impale the
children. Commissioner Brown commented that the traffic is probably from the Shell Station.
Mr. Canfield noted that the two convenience stores that sell single servings of 32 and 40 ounce
beer.
Commissioner Wiedower commented that without locking the gates, t hey could still access the
area. She commented about adding benches in other areas. Mr. Canfield suggested marking
the area with signage that required adults to be accompanied with a child. Commissioner
Boaitey noted that signs like that were a deterrent in Atlanta. Commissioner Wiedower also
suggested using the six foot fence only along the Ninth and McMath street frontage and the four
foot on the rest.
George Campbell, resident of Quapaw Towers, commented that there needs to be some kind of
deterrent there. He commented in the early hours of the morning on weekends, there is a lot of
customer traffic at the convenience stores. He stated the problem was beer sales at the
convenience stores.
Byl Harrell, Bylites, commented that when the police are at the convenience store, the problem
is moved south to the polo bike courts. The problem is just moved to a different area. He
suggested a different approach without a fence around the entire park.
Mr. Ross said that there could be a whole discussion on the heights of fences. Commissioner
Ripley said that the public spaces should be more inviting. Commissioner Wiedower continued
that comment and said that the consultants on the master plan wanted to make the park more
inviting. She stated that she was not going to support a six foot fence all around but had no
issue with the signage. Mr. Ross said that the signage was first and wanted to resolve it now.
There was a discussion on amending the application to remove the fencing. Mr. Ross stated
that he wanted to amend his application to remove the fencing from the application.
Commissioner Wiedower made a motion to approve the amended application. Commissioner
Johnson seconded and the motion was approved with 7 ayes and 0 noes.
Im
IV. Other Matters
Enforcement issues
Staff reported that there were no enforcement items at this time.
Chairman Vanlandingham proposed moving the Memphis Training Questions to the next
month's agenda. No commissioner opposed this change to the agenda.
Citizen Communication
There were no citizens present for citizen communication.
Adjournment
The meeting adjourned at 6:18 p.m.
Attest:
'o-
Chair
Secretary /Staff
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